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You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby TwistedSystem » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:05 pm

12 inches in a foot? Water boils at 32 degrees? Those are some nice random numbers. This has always seemed weird to me but there must be a reason why you guys use random numbers, do they all end in 2? I mean our system (always get the metric and imperial names messed up) is always a power of ten when measuring distance, water freezes at 0 and boils at 100. So as im uneducated with the us system, why the random numbers?
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby fishki » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:17 pm

yeah we Americans like the number 2, cause its a prime number, and im not sure about your planet but on our planet water boils at 212 degrees and freezes at 32 degrees which also has the number 3 in it which is also a prime number, now the temp at which water boils has the number 1 in it also which is argueably a prime number also since the definition of a prime number is a natural number which has exactly two distinct natural number divisors, 1 and itself. And yes even 1 foot or 12 inches has the numbers 1 and 2 that would be prime numbers.

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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby RYANMILLER36 » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:20 pm

fishki wrote:yeah we Americans like the number 2, cause its a prime number, and im not sure about your planet but on our planet water boils at 212 degrees and freezes at 32 degrees which also has the number 3 in it which is also a prime number, now the temp at which water boils has the number 1 in it also which is argueably a prime number also since the definition of a prime number is a natural number which has exactly two distinct natural number divisors, 1 and itself.

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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby TwistedSystem » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:25 pm

See now this is why I posted this here instead of going to google, I was just waiting for fish's completely ridiculous answer that somehow makes sense and doesn't at the same time.
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby WHO_99 » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:27 pm

RYANMILLER36 wrote:
fishki wrote:yeah we Americans like the number 2, cause its a prime number, and im not sure about your planet but on our planet water boils at 212 degrees and freezes at 32 degrees which also has the number 3 in it which is also a prime number, now the temp at which water boils has the number 1 in it also which is argueably a prime number also since the definition of a prime number is a natural number which has exactly two distinct natural number divisors, 1 and itself.

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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby gabrile23 » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:34 pm

I understand what your saying most of the world use meters and Celsius and we don't. Its hard to completly stop using a system thats been used for so long just BC it be easyer. I think they did try to change over to the metric system here but it did'nt work.
Im sure theirs pros and cons to using ethier system of measurement. Here is i site i found that explains it alot better then i can.
http://www.k12.wa.us/EdTech/Athena/curr ... rcels.html
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby fishki » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:37 pm

Actually when i was doing state highway work we used the metric system, all new projects in kansas since sometime in the mid ninties they went over to metric, i actually find it easier to use.
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby TwistedSystem » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:38 pm

Good job Gabrile, for providing the first bit of useful information today.
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby fishki » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:39 pm

TwistedSystem wrote:Good job Gabrile, for providing the first bit of useful information today.


:shck: mine was useful...i taught some peeps their first lesson in prime numbers
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby TwistedSystem » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:41 pm

fish, you basically told people that 1, 2 and 3 are all prime numbers.
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby gabrile23 » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:42 pm

fishki wrote:
TwistedSystem wrote:Good job Gabrile, for providing the first bit of useful information today.


:shck: mine was useful...i taught some peeps their first lesson in prime numbers

2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 41, 43, 47, 53, 59, 61, 67, 71, 73, 79, 83, 89, 97 all prime i help.
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby TwistedSystem » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:45 pm

See fish, Gabrile did a better lesson on prime numbers. Yours was just more amuzing to read.
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby fishki » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:47 pm

TwistedSystem wrote:fish, you basically told people that 1, 2 and 3 are all prime numbers.


well they gotta start somewhere, and i was just using the numbers you originaly supplied in your first post, and i didnt say 1 was prime i said it was argueably prime cause you gotta look at the primality of 1 and someone said it was and someone else said it wasnt.
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby TwistedSystem » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:52 pm

Wait fish, someone said it was AND someone said it wasn't? Time for a poll!
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby gabrile23 » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:53 pm

fishki wrote:
TwistedSystem wrote:fish, you basically told people that 1, 2 and 3 are all prime numbers.


well they gotta start somewhere, and i was just using the numbers you originaly supplied in your first post, and i didnt say 1 was prime i said it was argueably prime cause you gotta look at the primality of 1 and someone said it was and someone else said it wasnt.

A number n is prime if it is greater than 1 and has no positive divisors except 1 and n.
A number n is prime if and only if it has exactly two divisors.
A prime has exactly one proper divisor, 1.
Not the sum of an odd number >1 of consecutive odd numbers. - Jon Perry (perry(AT)globalnet.co.uk), Sep 10 2004
Comment from Pieter Moree, Oct 14 2004: The paper by Kaoru Motose starts as follows: "Let q be a prime divisor of a Mersenne number 2^p-1 where p is prime. Then p is the order of 2 (mod q). Thus p is a divisor of q-1 and q>p. This shows that there exist infinitely many prime numbers."
1 is not a prime, for if the primes included 1, then the factorization of a natural number n into a product of primes would not be unique, since n = n*1.


I copyed it from wikipedia im not that smart.
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby fishki » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:54 pm

gabrile23 wrote:
fishki wrote:
TwistedSystem wrote:fish, you basically told people that 1, 2 and 3 are all prime numbers.


well they gotta start somewhere, and i was just using the numbers you originaly supplied in your first post, and i didnt say 1 was prime i said it was argueably prime cause you gotta look at the primality of 1 and someone said it was and someone else said it wasnt.

A number n is prime if it is greater than 1 and has no positive divisors except 1 and n.
A number n is prime if and only if it has exactly two divisors.
A prime has exactly one proper divisor, 1.
Not the sum of an odd number >1 of consecutive odd numbers. - Jon Perry (perry(AT)globalnet.co.uk), Sep 10 2004
Comment from Pieter Moree, Oct 14 2004: The paper by Kaoru Motose starts as follows: "Let q be a prime divisor of a Mersenne number 2^p-1 where p is prime. Then p is the order of 2 (mod q). Thus p is a divisor of q-1 and q>p. This shows that there exist infinitely many prime numbers."
1 is not a prime, for if the primes included 1, then the factorization of a natural number n into a product of primes would not be unique, since n = n*1.


I copyed it from wikipedia im not that smart.


Until the 19th century, most mathematicians considered the number 1 a prime, with the definition being just that a prime is divisible only by 1 and itself but not requiring a specific number of distinct divisors. There is still a large body of mathematical work that is valid despite labelling 1 a prime, such as the work of Stern and Zeisel. Derrick Norman Lehmer's list of primes up to 10,006,721, reprinted as late as 1956,[2] started with 1 as its first prime.[3] Henri Lebesgue is said to be the last professional mathematician to call 1 prime.[citation needed] The change in label occurred so that the fundamental theorem of arithmetic, as stated, is valid, i.e., “each number has a unique factorization into primes.”[4][5] Furthermore, the prime numbers have several properties that the number 1 lacks, such as the relationship of the number to its corresponding value of Euler's totient function or the sum of divisors function.[6]

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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby gabrile23 » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:55 pm

fishki wrote:
gabrile23 wrote:
fishki wrote:
TwistedSystem wrote:fish, you basically told people that 1, 2 and 3 are all prime numbers.


well they gotta start somewhere, and i was just using the numbers you originaly supplied in your first post, and i didnt say 1 was prime i said it was argueably prime cause you gotta look at the primality of 1 and someone said it was and someone else said it wasnt.

A number n is prime if it is greater than 1 and has no positive divisors except 1 and n.
A number n is prime if and only if it has exactly two divisors.
A prime has exactly one proper divisor, 1.
Not the sum of an odd number >1 of consecutive odd numbers. - Jon Perry (perry(AT)globalnet.co.uk), Sep 10 2004
Comment from Pieter Moree, Oct 14 2004: The paper by Kaoru Motose starts as follows: "Let q be a prime divisor of a Mersenne number 2^p-1 where p is prime. Then p is the order of 2 (mod q). Thus p is a divisor of q-1 and q>p. This shows that there exist infinitely many prime numbers."
1 is not a prime, for if the primes included 1, then the factorization of a natural number n into a product of primes would not be unique, since n = n*1.


I copyed it from wikipedia im not that smart.


Until the 19th century, most mathematicians considered the number 1 a prime, with the definition being just that a prime is divisible only by 1 and itself but not requiring a specific number of distinct divisors. There is still a large body of mathematical work that is valid despite labelling 1 a prime, such as the work of Stern and Zeisel. Derrick Norman Lehmer's list of primes up to 10,006,721, reprinted as late as 1956,[2] started with 1 as its first prime.[3] Henri Lebesgue is said to be the last professional mathematician to call 1 prime.[citation needed] The change in label occurred so that the fundamental theorem of arithmetic, as stated, is valid, i.e., “each number has a unique factorization into primes.”[4][5] Furthermore, the prime numbers have several properties that the number 1 lacks, such as the relationship of the number to its corresponding value of Euler's totient function or the sum of divisors function.[6]


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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby TwistedSystem » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:56 pm

Alright you two, take this argument over to the other topic.
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby fishki » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:57 pm

this makes me think gab, cause my kid learned primes in school last year and they were using the number 1, so are the teachers right or wrong?
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby TwistedSystem » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:59 pm

fish, theres already a damn topic about it made just for you. Lets get this one back on topic. Why do you americans eat so many cheeseburgers? Also, is anyone on this board fat?
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby fishki » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:59 pm

but wait for gab...ok fine im going
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby MichaelVash7886 » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:03 am

Well as far as temperature goes, both systems are wrong when it comes to heat. To give an example 40 deg F or C is not twice as hot as 20 deg F or C. I can explain why if you want.

As for feet, etc. That was the way the system was, a new system was created to use 10s and we haven't changed to it. And it'd be very hard for us to do somethings, all of us think in miles or mph. I've tried doing my running and hitting 5k rather than 3 miles, and it feels really weird and throws me off.

There are also some oddities between the two. KM are smaller than miles, but deg C are bigger than deg F.
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby gabrile23 » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:07 am

fishki wrote:this makes me think gab, cause my kid learned primes in school last year and they were using the number 1, so are the teachers right or wrong?

I guess i depends on ypur point of veiw. A prime number should be divisible by one and itself so 1 is a prime number by defult but not a true prime number bc it does'nt have a second divisable number just itself. Its the prime prime number.
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby MichaelVash7886 » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:14 am

0 = ULTIMATE SUPER non-PRIME INTEGER

Oh and throw ULTRA EXTREME in there somewhere.
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Re: You Americans and your ridiculous measuring tecniques.

Postby MichaelVash7886 » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:18 am

Does anyone know what temp is twice as hot as 0 deg C? I do.
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