GAS PRICES

[fishki]

Ok, i know most/some of you are too young to even run the gas pump, so this is for the ppl that can drive at least.

Oil hit $143 a barrel again, this is really starting to affect my pocket. Our gas prices as of July 2 were $3.98 gallon.
Today we will be going up again, and by the weekend we will be looking at $4.06 - $4.10. The oil companies are getting rich, I dont care what they say. And now I heard one of the mid east producers is cutting back on production.
I dont even know who to blame it on any more. I know alot of our min wage workers around here can barely afford to even drive to work. Ive pulled up to a pump and seen where someone has gottin like 3 dollars in gas, where are they going? not far with these prices, we are sitting over a buck higher than a year ago, where will we be in 2009?

So where does my money go anyway?
Breakdown for 1 gallon of gas at $4.00 gallon

Crude Oil Companies - $2.20
Taxes - $0.76
Refining - $0.88
Distribution - $0.16

Well you can see whos getting rich.

[twistedblister]

Yeah i have a deisel and my fuel is almost 5 bucks a gallon here. it gets awesome milage but still. man ugh. we are past the top of the bell curve some people are suggesting. we are no where near a workable replacement to this fossil fuel we bet our country on. well us and the rest of the wrold is petroleum based so man. yeah its crazy scary right now.

I was old enough to remember the gas lines in the 70s as a child. I did not understand but i knew somthing was not right.

[fishki]

I dont think we are past the top, US demand is to high, i believe we will see 6-7 dollar gas. Oil prices are setting new records weekly. Unless we can change the way americans think, we are in a long term rut. Hybrid vehicles are to slow in development, and americans are slower yet to buy them. And when asked if they are trying to conserve gas they say yes. But data shows we are driving more. I fill my pickup up roughly 3 times a week, at $100 a tank, So im burning $1200 month in my personal truck driving around to jobsites. I have raised my rates twice this year because of fuel cost. Hauling rock yesterday in 1 truck cost almost 280 in fuel.

But drivers in some other countries have it worse. Gasoline prices in the United Kingdom, Italy and the Netherlands are at least twice as high as those in the United States. But drivers in oil-rich countries such as Kuwait, Nigeria and Venezuela pay less than a $1 a gallon for gas.

[twistedblister]

oops no not the pirce yeah i think it will become more expensive soon to sadly. what i meant about the bell curve is the fossil fule reserves. some models show the peak was in the mid 1980's and we are already on the downward path. no one has a proven bell model but man alot of them tend to frighteningly agree that we are not on the incline of the bell with reagards to reserves.

good god yeah that is awful to run a vehicle for that much. that is why we are going to see groceries begin to rise too. One thing i was worried about was the floods destroy already depleated grain harvests but a report on MacLaher said they had a record harvest despite the devestation. i could not understand that.

Yeah rotten weak to lose my telecomute job. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Yeah those riots in france and spain where the fuel is like 13 or somthing outrageous a gallaon. wow

No the political rehtoric is all bull. we do not have a replacement fuel. gears and axels need grease to move. I dont remember any research on synthetic grease. somehow we have to create a new infrastructre to support personal trasnsportation or our way of life we have grown up with will change dramaticly.

[Guest]

gas is going to destroy people with minimum wage jobs and that are far away. It is forcing some to actually bike to work which if more do it it will help with americas obeisity.

[TwistedSystem]

Basically Im saving all my money for november when I get a car. Its like $1.32 a litre here and I think its like 2 litres in a gallon but im not sure. I never got americas measuring system its so stupid. Instead of going up by powers of ten were going to put 12 inches in a foot and retarded random measurements like that.

[elkhoury]

i am 18 years old i can learn how to drive then buy a car, but i said to my self f*** it my money will never go to a car or gas i better keep the money for something else

[TwistedSystem]

I turn 16 in a november so I can finally get a real liscence and get rid of this crappy learners but Im going to become poor because of gas.

[Guest]

Exactly get a job close to where you live and bike.

[gemroz]

Yea im paying roughly $3500 bucks a week on fuel for my fedex vans!! It hurts to even type that! Luckily we get part of that back.... still tho thats a f***load of money for fuel!!

[twistedblister]

i am 18 years old i can learn how to drive then buy a car, but i said to my self f*** it my money will never go to a car or gas i better keep the money for something else

well you live in london right? so public transport is the acepted norm unless you are ridiculosly rich right?

[twistedblister]

Yeah.. i lets see here is the documentary i watche about the fuel problem that scared the willies out of me.
* all sad and forlorn now he is willy less*

it will make you start a vegitable garden i am warning you. yeah its slanted but the math is not.

http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_End_of_Suburbia/70022083?trkid=190393

[elkhoury]

i am 18 years old i can learn how to drive then buy a car, but i said to my self f*** it my money will never go to a car or gas i better keep the money for something else

well you live in london right? so public transport is the acepted norm unless you are ridiculosly rich right?

actualy glasgow but still its the same and yes i use public transport its much cheaper, i always want to buy a bicycle but i dont know where to put it, there is no room for it in the house.

[twistedblister]

wow ok sorry i thuought you were in london. my bad. thanks for you thoughts though. yeah the suburbs are starting to look like a serrious mistake here.

[fishki]

So its come down to stealing...

YENAGOA, Nigeria (Reuters) - The Nigerian navy has arrested 15 Filipinos after intercepting a vessel carrying a significant quantity of stolen crude oil off the coast of the Niger Delta, a senior military official said on Friday.

Gunboats intercepted the MV Lina Panama in the waters off Brass, home to a major oil export terminal in the southern state of Bayelsa, the heartland of Africa's biggest oil industry.

Nigeria is the world's eighth biggest exporter of crude oil but a sizeable proportion of its output is stolen by thieves who either drill into pipelines or hijack barges loaded with oil, theft that is known locally as "bunkering."

Some estimates put the amount of crude stolen from Nigeria's Niger Delta at 100,000 barrels per day, equivalent to around $14 million daily or $5.1 billion a year at current prices. It is shipped out of Nigeria and sold on the international market.

Bunkering and attacks on oil pipelines in the Niger Delta have cut Nigeria's output by around a fifth in recent years, helping push world oil prices to record highs.

President Umaru Yar'Adua is under international pressure to crack down on the criminality and restore some of Nigeria's lost output to help take the pressure of global oil prices and lessen the burden on consumer economies.

[twistedblister]

A good deal of Africa is in a state of clan war genocide. that the UN is powerless to curb. the pirates are probalby working for some of the Nigeraians. god knows what the truth of the situation.

with economic devleoping countries like India and China gas will continue to climb.

My neighbor mentioned creating oil and gas from Coal somthing i am not readlily familar with. ( he is an ex engeniering chemist for 3M) so he knows sound refining whe he talks about it. says the process is very old but just more resorce intensive to prodcuce the oil. the fact taht we in the us have the lions share of coal deposists makes this a reasonalbe solution to me for local energy needs rather then importing Venusuelaian Ethonlol

[tekkentool]

our petrol price here in australia is about 1.70 a litre. in $ a gallon that is 6.42 dollars a gallon.

[twistedblister]

good gravy man ( thank you its just brown and water) the only thing that makes me think this is on the decline is for the past two days the price per barrel have droped down to 130 a barrel i belive. good and bad. good for us not to lose paychecks on our cars but bad becase americas cry for fuel efficent vehicles and alternitive fuels will die if the price drops down to an aceptalbe level. most people dont think about the overall pic just what affects them currently. its part of the problem.

[tekkentool]

good gravy man ( thank you its just brown and water) the only thing that makes me think this is on the decline is for the past two days the price per barrel have droped down to 130 a barrel i belive. good and bad. good for us not to lose paychecks on our cars but bad becase americas cry for fuel efficent vehicles and alternitive fuels will die if the price drops down to an aceptalbe level. most people dont think about the overall pic just what affects them currently. its part of the problem.

one of the most interesting things ive heard is an editor on wheels who was simply overjoyed about high fuel prices. he believess that with higher and higher fuel prices the next propulsion system for cars will come quicker.

[fishki]

They just showed a guy on Discovery or History channel who built a car that runs on compressed air, goes like 140 miles on a tank and reaches speeds of 70 mph.
All you need at home is an air compressor to refill it.

[cloud945076]

wow. really? thats really cool

[tekkentool]

They just showed a guy on Discovery or History channel who built a car that runs on compressed air, goes like 140 miles on a tank and reaches speeds of 70 mph.
All you need at home is an air compressor to refill it.

i've seen those, from the ones i've seen though theyre very loud, not that i care. i want one thats loud and shoots vapour out of it. i can roll up to a preschool and scare all the little kiddies

[fishki]

this one looked like a minivan and was really kinda quiet, it had a 2 cylinder engine but went like 70 mph....id buy it

[tekkentool]

this one looked like a minivan and was really kinda quiet, it had a 2 cylinder engine but went like 70 mph....id buy it

well if it's a minivan sign me up. i love mini vans

[stickcult]

You could go the (Davis) California way, and get an electric car, that recharges from your house.