I've been talking to a guy from the clan Vengance (the clan who destroyed us in GB recently). He wanted me to pass his words on to us:
From Homeboy42069:
know this-the team that can pull together and work together-and each of them play SMART-will beat any team even if they are outskilled-you had some ok guys as pilots-u should've had 6 planes instead of 4 or 5 though-usually only 1 guy on the ground-unless its a ground GB-teach yer pilots in zones to hop out of their planes just to get land mines and lay them out after they shoot down all the other planes-thats a vital step-8 guys means 32 landmines can go down for your team
So what do you guys think? I read "Spawn camping" in their strategy. Landmine the spawn points basically and rape and repeat. Also I didn't think that many landmine icons spawned in the maps. Is there really one landmine icon per person in a map? I didn't think there was? The only thing I can really agree on is he's right that we did need more planes in the air, and we do need to mesh more as a team. Which is why I do have some GB strategy type practices coming up next week.
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I talked with this guy as well, I sent him a note and all I got was cocky trash talk. The one thing he did say that was useful was that all players need to be able to handle themselves in the air. He mocked the fact that we had four ground pounders and and four pilots. Said at most we needed one Ground guy and the rest pilots. Im okay with the way we do things now, but I dont expect us to beat any of the upper clans with our current method. Again, I am fine with this but being competitive by nature I want to win, but I also realize that it is just a game and intended to be fun. That is all.
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Pocket_Sand wrote:I talked with this guy as well, I sent him a note and all I got was cocky trash talk. The one thing he did say that was useful was that all players need to be able to handle themselves in the air. He mocked the fact that we had four ground pounders and and four pilots. Said at most we needed one Ground guy and the rest pilots. Im okay with the way we do things now, but I dont expect us to beat any of the upper clans with our current method. Again, I am fine with this but being competitive by nature I want to win, but I also realize that it is just a game and intended to be fun. That is all.
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LOL You sound like a tough military man speaking that way. I do agree with you though Pocket. The current way we fight is fine, but only against clans of our level. For elite clans we're going to have to adopt new fighting measures. I am very competitive too, I want to win! And I honestly want to be able to beat elite clans. I want to beat them so bad, which is why I am not giving up on beating them. For now I want us to start some anti-elite clan type practices while we battle clans of our level in GBs till we are ready to face an elite clan again. I think for an elite clan battle we'll need to get more of our ground pounders to fly in those types of scenarios. It's the only way we'll beat an elite clan. I think training ground pounders to be flexible both in the air and ground is now crucial, and the same goes for pilots being able to fight on the ground too.
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Re: Vengance shared some info
The only way to beat an elite pilot is to become an elite pilot
I hate it when the voices in my head go silent.....I never know what those fuckers are up to.
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fishki wrote:The only way to beat an elite pilot is to become an elite pilot
that's not always true. Elite clans tend to use the "gang mentality". In one on one fights they can be beat. I know this because I've done it. I've fought some elite pilots one on one and I either win or it's an equal fight. Only every once in awhile do I truly get smacked down. Final Victory is one such pilot I've encountered that cleaned my clock good. I don't consider myself elite, but I can hold my own against them. Elites are beatable without becoming elite.
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Re: Vengance shared some info
i personally don't think ONLY air power is the key. i believe that a balance between air and ground is what will really win a game. maybe even a little higher number of pilots but not only 1 gp. that just doesn't seem right to me.
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Re: Vengance shared some info
WHO_99 wrote:i personally don't think ONLY air power is the key. i believe that a balance between air and ground is what will really win a game. maybe even a little higher number of pilots but not only 1 gp. that just doesn't seem right to me.
HELL NO! You need AT LEAST 3! 1 flag guy then 2 to cover him and help the pilots in the air. You do need a few pilots though
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RYANMILLER36 wrote:WHO_99 wrote:i personally don't think ONLY air power is the key. i believe that a balance between air and ground is what will really win a game. maybe even a little higher number of pilots but not only 1 gp. that just doesn't seem right to me.
HELL NO! You need AT LEAST 3! 1 flag guy then 2 to cover him and help the pilots in the air. You do need a few pilots though
Oh. And Tell Homeskillet that RYAN said F you
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WHO_99 wrote:i personally don't think ONLY air power is the key. i believe that a balance between air and ground is what will really win a game. maybe even a little higher number of pilots but not only 1 gp. that just doesn't seem right to me.
I've always thought this too. 1 ground pounder is ridiculous. He'll have too many odds against him. I'm all for 5 or 6 pilots, and 2 or 3 ground guys, that works. But not one ground pounder.
As for fighting an elite clan, sadly all air power is needed. I don't agree with it, but it's the only way to match an elite clan because air is what they always rely on. My idea for this is everyone has to be in the air just till an elite clan is either pinned down or grounded, then the group pounders land and do their thing on the ground. It may be the only way to beat an elite clan.
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Thats how NmE plays and it works for them......1 guy on the ground..everyone else in the air...they land long enough to trade planes, mine a base or take a zone and then back in the air....the ground guy can go anywhere by suiciding and respawning elsewhere
I hate it when the voices in my head go silent.....I never know what those fuckers are up to.
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RYANMILLER36 wrote:RYANMILLER36 wrote:WHO_99 wrote:i personally don't think ONLY air power is the key. i believe that a balance between air and ground is what will really win a game. maybe even a little higher number of pilots but not only 1 gp. that just doesn't seem right to me.
HELL NO! You need AT LEAST 3! 1 flag guy then 2 to cover him and help the pilots in the air. You do need a few pilots though
Oh. And Tell Homeskillet that RYAN said F you
That's mean!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Vengance shared some info
i have some thoughts but have some urgent needs to attend to. i dissagree with the spawn rate of the land mines / per person thing. you can only find them in certain sections of the map and they respaws very slowly. but yeah they were spawn camping a lot when they could. i guess do what you have to do to win but i dont care to play them again unless GB forces it on us.
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WHO_99 wrote:i personally don't think ONLY air power is the key. i believe that a balance between air and ground is what will really win a game. maybe even a little higher number of pilots but not only 1 gp. that just doesn't seem right to me.
Well strategically speaking one is plenty. Planes have a bigger variety of weapons that can take down anything on the battlefield, from people to jeeps to tanks. WH's can move faster than anything, meaning they can cover more of the map.
Most clans want to team up in the air, so if you have 2 or 3 WH's less than them taking control of the air would be near impossible if their pilots have good team tactics. If one of their people die on the ground they don't care as they can bomb or tow whoever killed him if it's on the ground.
At the end of the day though, this is a game and this is for fun, so I don't really care for the whole being an elite clan.
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no something is not right with the 1 and 7 thing first and foremost.
I Saw and killed more then one ground solider at one point. i killed two one on the ground and two in a tank so ******** to their one ground unit vs 6 in the air.
no something else was going on
yeah in the end of the day playing in GB is all about freaking wins.
so they got it good F them . F home boy F the whole clan.
I will not have any inbetween with them.
F Kat for dogging us and for dogging our strategeys.
we are developing a good rounded stratagey. they were children . if we had not been confined to a base they could not have spawn camped and won.
up thiers.
I Saw and killed more then one ground solider at one point. i killed two one on the ground and two in a tank so ******** to their one ground unit vs 6 in the air.
no something else was going on
yeah in the end of the day playing in GB is all about freaking wins.
so they got it good F them . F home boy F the whole clan.
I will not have any inbetween with them.
F Kat for dogging us and for dogging our strategeys.
we are developing a good rounded stratagey. they were children . if we had not been confined to a base they could not have spawn camped and won.
up thiers.
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Re: Vengance shared some info
WH"s are also harder to take down when you are stuck in a base as you only have one spawn for Rocket Launcher, if you are lucky, and that person would be targeted.
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I think they must practice hiting people on the ground with homing. I can do if im lucky but they almost naver missed me.
I think our strategy is good if we can keep at least two bases and spread out their forces we can slow them down base rapers. It might be fun to sneak into their base and put landmines on all the planes to slow them down even more.
I think our strategy is good if we can keep at least two bases and spread out their forces we can slow them down base rapers. It might be fun to sneak into their base and put landmines on all the planes to slow them down even more.
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gabrile23 wrote:I think they must practice hiting people on the ground with homing. I can do if im lucky but they almost naver missed me.
I think our strategy is good if we can keep at least two bases and spread out their forces we can slow them down base rapers. It might be fun to sneak into their base and put landmines on all the planes to slow them down even more.
That's a good idea Gab. Yeah one thing we need to do as a team is spread out. I noticed in the Vengance battle we all kind of clustered in the main base. Might as well put bullseyes on our backs by doing that LOL
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